Jan. 10, 2022

1833: Antoine Le Blanc and the Sayre House Murders

1833: Antoine Le Blanc and the Sayre House Murders

All we can say this week is buckle up for a wild ending. Also... we know he was a murderer but what caused a town to do THAT to him?!

This week the ONUC gals discuss the gruesome murders of the Sayres Family in Morristown, New Jersey, remember the lovely Betty White, and what a POS Antoine LeBlanc turned out to be.

Trigger Warning Level: Low

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Transcript

You are listening to one nation under crime, a historical chronological, true crime podcast. Each week we go through our nation's history and discuss one case from each year, starting in 1800. I'm 

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Kayla and I'm Leah 

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And we're to episode 35 35. So we, this is one of those fun cases that ties back to other things that we've discussed before. 

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I like time. And we will 

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End with a very fun fact. 

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I like fun facts that 

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Leah will really, you will like and simultaneously be perturbed of deer, not in a, you'll see 

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Mixed 

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Emotions. Yes. You will have mixed emotions because I had mixed emotions when I thought about it for a second. I went, oh, 

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Oh, by the way, mixed emotions, we did not discuss in our last podcast. Any Y 

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I know. Yeah. So our last episode that came out and we recorded it on new year's day. And so emotions are still high. It's fine. Yes. The wonderful, lovely buddy wise. 

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I mean, national treasure national treasure, so sad. So my big, huge bash plant, I'm sure it'll probably continue on do doula Memorial. Cause I'm sure they recorded. 

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I don't know. I don't know if they planned on doing it on our birthday or if they had already 

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Prerecorded some of it. 

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So I don't know, 

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But I mean, Betty White y'all come on so much, so much philanthropy work for animals and just grounded. So funny, 

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You see the clip of her when she got her wax figure at Madame Tussaud's. I don't think so. So they did it. And so like you said, she was going to be a hundred, you know, just an actually from when this comes out just a few days 

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And like people magazine already had any white turns, a hundred. 

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Yeah. It was any ice. So she named them. I never, right. I did see something the other day though, that, or yeah, that said Betty White was so kind that she didn't want 20, 22 to be a bad year for anyone. And so she passed in 2021. So he could still blame it on 2021, which I kinda liked. Cause I was like, Hmm, maybe. So maybe so Betty, but yes, she got a wax figure at Madame Tussaud's when she was like 90 and there's a video of her and she looks at it and she goes, I'm just so thrilled for, for, you know, this, this honor, but could, y'all not have done this like 40 years ago Or at least made me look like I did 40 years ago. 

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I love shoes. Gorgeous. I mean, still was to the day she died, but like, 

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Yeah, but she has a long career that spanned over 70. Thanks. I loved her on game shows. I mean, everybody loves 

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The golden girls and you got to love 

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Rose. I mean, that was going to say rose Noland. My favorite, I mean, but you had to be smart to play such a Dick. I mean, you have to be smart to be able to play. 

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Yeah. She's very intelligent. And I did see something that was like, oh, you know, like the golden girls have re reunited, like they've reunited on the other side. And I was like, oh, y'all, don't realize they didn't all like each other. 

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Yeah. Well, but it's, it's too, just to think of the actual golden girls, the actresses, 

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But which, I mean, I think they, for the most part, they like to show that I think that the Dorothy brr get along with, 

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I don't think Bea Arthur got along with a lot of PDFs and I'm not saying that I was going to say, I'm not saying that throwing shade. I just, I don't 

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Arthur, which is funny because BR there reminds me of my grainy because Bea Arthur is just very like striking woman and you know, she's very tall and very strong-willed and stuff like that. And yeah, I think Bea Arthur was just someone who just didn't really, she was there to work. She went in there to make friends. I appreciate out of her. 

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And like I said, I wasn't throwing shade at all. Just I just 

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Such a good show. And we did talk about Sophia Petrillo because she was part of the borscht belt. That's where she got her start. There you go. So always ties back to our show. I think we're the commonality between everyone. 

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It's a seven degrees of when you say that again, anyway, 

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Captain bacon will be a fan of us. One day 

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I had to, I had to bring her up there. I was, I was so sad. I mean, I sent you the text that was like, oh my gosh. I was so sorry. It's just Ugh. Oh. And when she unfortunately her role in the proposal. Oh my gosh. One of my favorite 

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Loved 

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It around the campfire. Oh my gosh. Okay. So for me, continue on. I just, we could not go any further without bringing her up because we were a national treasure 

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Older than sliced bread, literally older than slightly. 

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That's why we're friends. One of the many reasons. Okay. Continue 

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Left. Betty. I'm blinking twice for anyone who wants to save me. 

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Okay. 

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Here's a hostage situation. Anyway, our sources for this week, look, Brad's already on me. He knows. I've been looking up stuff out about secret organizations now, murder. Brad's already on the trail. Brad's like, Hey, we need to keep an eye on this girl. Don't worry. His, his cube, his cube mate. Chad is like, dude, you're getting too out of outside of the box. Brad's like, I'm telling you she's onto something. Nobody takes bread seriously though. So it's fine. Hi, Brad, our sources for this week, Brad's favorite. 

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My favorite to murder by Gaslight and then the website Morristown green. Now I'm going to say this here. Hmm. I'm going to say this at the top. This is for Leah. Okay. Interesting things happened in this story. Interesting and gross things happen at the very end of the story in Leah's mind. I think while one twisted, I also think it's kind of weird and kind of cool. Cause I like weird, cool stuff. So do not worry. I will. I will forewarn Leah before we get there. Y'all will understand. 

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So just put that up at the top, but if you want to hear some really cool, weird stuff, stick around our events in 1833, January 1st, the Haverford college in Haverford, Pennsylvania was founded by the Quakers of the society of friends. So it's kind of a long name. Yes. January 8th, the Boston academy of music open as the first music school in the United States, March 16th, parleys magazine was published in Boston as a periodical for young readers, March 17th, the Phoenix society was formed in New York, the Phoenix society. 

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I just think that it sets itself on fire and regenerates every few months, March 20th, the U S and Siam, which we've talked about in our PT Barnum episode, Siam turned into Thailand. They signed a commercial treaty with one another April 9th. The first tax supported public library in the United States was founded in Peterborough, New Hampshire. Very thankful for those. Let the smell of us love the smell of the library. April 24th, Jacob Everett and George . Yup. Patented the first soda fountain. 

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Thankful for those. You are for sure. Well, no, not as much anymore, but Leah has the diet Coke issue, but I started taking medicine and it's true. It makes it not taste good anymore. I haven't had diet Coke since may. It's a long time. It's a long time. It's a long time. June 6th, Andrew Jackson became the first president to ride a railroad train. Hmm. June 27th, prudence Crandall was arrested for conducting an academy for black women in Canterbury, Connecticut. Proving people are garbage. So you know, September 3rd. 

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Oh God. How do you really feel? Y'all don't want to know. I mean just anyways, whatever. It's fine. It's not fine. But September 3rd, the New York sun began publishing as the first daily newspaper. September 4th, the first news boy was hired by the New York sun. His name was Barney flirty. Oh, he had a dog named Barney. He was 10 new cute October 2nd. The New York anti-slavery society was officially organized. October 29th. The first fraternity house in the United States was founded. 

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Don't know which fraternity don't ask me. November 8th, a train derailed at highs town, New Jersey, which killed two people. And on board we're also Cornelius Vanderbilt. Oh, and former president John Quincy Adams, the van harmed same. They were fine. Okay. November 12th, the Leonid meteor shower. This is fun. The Leonid meteor shower was observed clearly in Alabama and news was made around the world. Cool. This is where the term, the stars fell on. Alabama comes from, I know the song you want to hear it? 

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No, but that's where it came from. There was a down hard and fast man. It's all right. You'll love. It's a good song. It is. I just November 24th site, Oop salon was founded at union college becoming the fifth fraternity in the United States because we don't have enough. December 3rd, the Oberlin college was founded in Ohio as the first co-educational college. Our births in 1833, March 14th. We have Lucy hops. Taylor. She is the first woman kind of loved women. 

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Got to love him. I am one. So she's the first woman to graduate from dental school in the United States for her. She's a Pisces, March 17th, Charles Edwin Wilbur did name Renault, American journalist and Egypt. Tologist fun. He always fascinates me. I used to be weirdly obsessed with Egypt. I've had weird obsessions about different periods of time. So Egypt is one of them. So fascinating. One of them I won't go into anyways. And then the Titanic was another one. So tech is pretty cool. 

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My boyfriend's son just got a, he has like a new found fascination for the Titanic he has not had. So this is just like a little side story. It'll make you guys laugh. So the other night he was talking about it and he was like, oh yeah, like the Titanic and everything. And he said, it's saying in like 1998, I said, buddy, I think the movie came out around then. But no. And he was like, no, no, no, it did. It did. And I go, go tell your dad and say, he looked at his dad. 

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And I said, your son said that the Titanic went down in 1998. And he goes, anyway, it was so, so funny. It was like, it went down and like With the confidence of everything he had in lesson eight, went down in late 1998, little buddy that almost reminds me of the kid yesterday who no boyfriend, son was playing with some kids in the neighborhood. They were playing football and he comes up to me and he goes, he's telling me about what he got for Christmas. 

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And he's like, yeah, I got this. And I got this and I got this. And then he goes, and then I got some Jordans and he just looks at me with the most serious look on his face. He goes, I got some Jordans, they're tennis shoes. And I went, I'm aware, but they were making them before you were even thought of, do you know who actually created Jordan's Dina? Who Jordan 

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Is. 

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Did you see him play? Did you know that he played for the Birmingham barons? No. Okay. Then have you seen him play, take your Jordans and go any sport? Have you even seen the original space jam? Anyways, kid, there, there are tenant, like with the most serious look on his face, as they vibe would not know what Jordans are anyways, back to Charles snappers. I mean, whatever. It only gets worse. So our friend, Charles Adam Wilber, American journalists and Egyptologist, he created the first translation of Les, Ms. 

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My least favorite. 

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True. 

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Only because it's so sad. Now the music is absolutely music is wonderful and it is amazing how the same music is used over. And it's, you know, it is amazing and beautiful, but it's so sad. And I need something uplifting because I have enough sad. Well, 

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And my brain, he's a Pisces, June 10th, Pauline Cushman. We talked about her before. She's an actress in the most successful union spy in the American civil war. She toured her story with PT Barnum 

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Again, to, for an actress to be a spy. So 

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She's a Gemini. And then December 20th, Samuel Mudd was born. He was in his mud. He was an American. That's not the term. Actually we'll get to it. Here's an American physician who is in imprisoned for conspiring with John Wilkes booth for the assassination of president Abraham Lincoln. The term one's name is mud comes from this because when they're talking about the conspiracy, the thing that kept coming up is one's name is mud. And so that if you are a lover of national treasure, which everyone should be, that's where that term relationship should be. 

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He's a Sagittarius. Most Sagittarius is I know, would not claim him, but that's fun. We have just really one like major death, I guess, in that year. And that was January 17th, William Rush died. He was the first major American sculptor onto our case. This week, May 11th, 1833, Antwan, Loblaw robbed and murdered Samuel and Sarah Sayer and their servant, Phoebe and Morris town, New Jersey. 

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I knew a couple names Samuel and Sarah 

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Is their last name Sayer. No, and 

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They did not have a 

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Servant. Well then they're not worth this case this week, 

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But I just, you know, that was just interesting when you said, 

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And I was like, wow, Morristown, New Jersey is located in Northern New Jersey and Morris county. The first permanent European settlement at Morris town occurred in 1715 by settlers from Connecticut in New York, the county and ultimately Morris town itself was named for the popular governor of the province, Lewis Morris, who champions land ownership rights for colonists by the middle of the 18th century, Morristown had 250 residents, booming population with two churches, a courthouse, two taverns, two schools, several stores and numerous mills and farms nearby Morristown was incorporated as a town by an act of the New Jersey legislature on April 6th, 1865. 

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And it is Morristown has been called quote, the official military capital of the American revolution because of its strategic role in the revolution. George Washington first came to Morris town in may of 17 73, 2 years before the revolutionary war broke out. And he traveled from there to New York city in 1777, general George Washington and the continental army marched from their victories at Trenton and Princeton to encamped near Morris town from January to may. Washington had his headquarters there during that first encampment at Jacob Arnold's Tavern, located at the Morris town green at the center of town. 

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We'll talk more about the Morris town green later, but it's kind of like the best thing that I can think of it. I don't know how to explain this to other people who may not know what this is, is like the quad at Montevallo. I was going to say like a, like a, it's like a green space in the middle of a town. Yeah. Like a square. Yeah. It's like a, yeah. So it stars hollow has the square in the middle of the town square in the middle. Yeah. That's all I could think of. And I was like, I think at the quad, it like, that's all I can think of stars hollow along Gilmore girls was my reference there. Yes. Hm. Morristown was selected for its extremely strategic location. It was between Philadelphia and New York and near new England while being protected by the washer, young mountains from the bulk of the continental British forces in camp in New York city during Washington's second stay in March of 1780. 

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He declared St. Patrick's day a holiday to honor his many Irish troops. Huh? How precious? After our last episode, people are trashing. Martha Washington traveled from Virginia and remained with her husband each winter throughout the war. The, the Marquis de Lafayette came to Washington. I can't, I can't do it again. This I'm taking this first, by the way, anyways, I mean, you have to, I can't, he came to Washington and Morristown to inform him that France would be sending ships and train soldiers to eat the concepts. 

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And so the balance sheets we rendezvous with Roshambo consolidate their gifts. Okay. We love it guys. We can't be. So he knows what to do with the truth. You know, he's in fluid for, I mean, it's one of those. I mean, it just, it, it has to come out to this horse, but the rains, Rick gets rid of all those things. And <em></em> with scouter, meantime, any who among cold medicines. So here we are. So then our friend Alexander Hamilton, courted and wed Elizabeth Schuyler at a residence or Washington's personal physician was staying because she was helpless in Morris town is where of this occurred. 

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Can you believe it? Like, this is where like all of this 

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All went down here, 

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Which is so funny. So locally known as the Skylar Hamilton house, the doctor had Bez can't feel houses listed on both the New Jersey and national register of historic places. 

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That's awesome. 

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Morris town's Burnham park has a statue of the father of the American revolution. A man who wrote common sense. Thomas Paine, 

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I've been reading common sense by Thomas and then say that I'm intense or I'm insane. You want a 

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Revolution? I want a revelation 

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Declaration 

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All day. Ah, we really could. And that's what's so funny is when I was writing these days, like, all I kept thinking of was Hamels. Cause I was like, everything is happening here. 

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All the lawns, all the laws. 

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So he did write the pamphlet common sense, which urged a complete break from British rule, Samuel FB more's and Alfred veil built the first Telegraph at the Speedwell iron works in Morris town on January 6th, 1838. The first Telegraph message was a patient. Wait, her is no loser. Well, there you go. The first public demonstration of the invention occurred five days later as an early step towards the information age since 1929, more than 16,016,000 guide dogs For the blind, from the scene. 

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I incorporated the oldest school in the United States for this over 16,000 little doggos have been trained on the streets of Morris town is seeing dogs. I just want to live there. Cause I just want to see all the seeing eye dog. 

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Okay. I have a funny, when we went to Scotland and visited a mom's family, which was amazing, we went to see her uncle that was, and they have since passed. So I'm so thankful that we went, got to go and visit because it was my grandmother's last sister was alive. So it was my aunt and uncle that we visited. And in the town that they lived in, there was a facility that trained seeing our dogs. But the sign said blind, seeing our dogs, they were like, so are the dogs blind? You know, it was one of those. You're like bad decided to your because like, okay, so are we training the dogs now or what? 

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What's what's going on here. So anyway, 

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Along with Thomas Paine, a statue of Morris, Frank, the co-founder of the scene, I guide dog school, the blind and his dog buddy stand in the corner of the green. Oh, love it. On January 5th, 2009, I have heard this in another thing. Anyways, on January 5th, 2009, five red lights were spotted in the Morris town area night skies. The event was a staged hoax using helium balloons and flares, but became nationally known as the Morris town, UFO hoax, hometown tails, a public access television show and podcast, chronologic, chronicling stories and urban legends from around the world, loosely based itself in Morris town. 

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We're going to go into some notable people from Morris town. One of them I had, I couldn't skip over him and you'll see why. And I will try to not get emotional. Let's continue. Oh, so notable people for Morris town include Thomas Nast. We talked about him in our uncle Sam episode. He is the one that created the personification of uncle Sam. And what we now know is what Santa Claus looks like. Craig Newmark is the creator of Craigslist. Garrett Reisman is the first American who ever got on the international space station. 

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You would never find me there. Never, never, never, never, not in a million years. No. And Steve Forbes editor in chief of Forbes magazine and then last and absolutely, certainly not least. There's a reason I included him because he should never be forgotten. And anyways, when I saw the death date, I said, I can't leave him out. No one will probably know him or many people may know him. If you were from this area, his name is Rick rescore. 

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Ulla and I hope that I say that right? If I did not, I greatly apologize. He was the director of security for the financial services firm for Morgan Stanley at the world trade center rescue. Laura anticipated the attacks on the towers and implemented evacuation procedures, crediting with saving thousands of lives. He died during the attacks of September 11th, 2001 while leading evacuees down the stairwells out of the south tower. Wow. And he died that day could not skip over him. Nope. I'm getting chills. Thinking about it all over again, such a freaking emotional thing. 

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We've talked about it before and I'm like tearing up thinking about it. September 11 is just like, Ugh. And people it's people like him who saved that, like when I saw his name, I was like, why do I not know his name? Like people should know there. Yeah. In the background. Right. Things like that. And there, there are too many people wanting to highlight. And it reminds me though, of Mr. Rogers, who, Mr. Rogers always said, sign the helpers. And just it's, it's just one of those things though, of like, those are names of people that we should really. And I, when I saw his photo, I recognized the photo of him. 

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And I was like, I know that like he just, and so yeah, he was head of security services for Morgan Stanley. And he died in the towers that day while trying to get people out. And he ended up saving like people, he saved thousands of people because he was the one that originally was like, we have to evacuate now go like, go. So anyways, we'll go into our story for this week. Our story starts with Antwan lope long arriving in the United States, immigrating from France. He left France for a better life and to try and win back his lover Murray while the two were very much in love. 

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Marie's parents didn't approve of Antwan saying that he was poor and low bread. And I just put in parentheses. Ouch. Yeah. That's not very nice. Wow. LowBlow there guys. All right. So Antwan figured that he could go to the states where he kept hearing about people attaining quick wealth and status, and then go back to France and be accepted by Marie's parents. Make something of yourself, come back and just put, does this ever seriously work out? No, just a few days after his arrival, Antwan was hired by the Sayer family in Morristown, New Jersey, as we discussed Morristown was a major player in the American revolution. So that might be why Antwan decided to go to Morristown. 

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Cause there's really no other reason why you would just end up in Morristown just based off of where it is. So the Sayers were moderately wealthy. They were in their sixties and they were living with her servant. Phoebe Phoebe might have been a slave. It's not certain okay. Everything that I kept saying, there were, there was one source that referred to her as a slave. Everything else referred to her as a servant. And during this time there were even though this is in the north. So this is a New Jersey where slavery was like being diminished greatly. This was still for a reminder for those who don't know, this was still a time where even though a lot of people might not have had slaves, they still, depending on family status of some people who might have been enslaved people before, a lot of times they would actually hire them on as servants to where they paid them. 

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They would still keep the 

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Side ones, but it would actually hide, 

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But it was a very different situation. So I'm not exactly sure what Phoebe was in that regard. So I've just called her a servant because I don't, I don't know, because it said that they had other workers on the farm. They never referred to them as slaves either. So it was very confusing. So thankfully for the Sayers, Antwan was able to start working immediately and just in time, because their previous head farmhand hand left without notice this wasn't a match made in heaven by any stretch of the imagination because Antwan didn't speak English and the Sayers didn't speak French. 

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Well, that's not very good. So 

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I guess soul Anton didn't think about that in his haste to move. 

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Yeah. You're just going to move to a country and not speak any of the language. 

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I mean, I've heard of people doing it, but interesting. A lot more people in other countries speak English now than they used to though. So not saying like English is superior by any means, but yeah, not back at this time, there were other employees of the stairs and they constantly complained about Antwan from his cigar smoking to his lack of personal hygiene. 

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Now I will say now I don't smoke cigars personally, but I do like the smell of a cigar 

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At this point, Leah will not have gone to the happiest place on earth yet she will be leaving tomorrow, but by the time this comes out, you will be back. But there is a cigar store in Disney Springs and yeah, it smells really good when you walk in. I do like the 

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Smell is a good 

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Spot, 

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So it's really cool. I like the smell of BF. 

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There's nothing worse than that. Welcome to Disney world. So thankfully it's not going to be like sweltering when you're there. The work was a lot harder than Antwan expected. And instead of simply tending to a garden, which is what he thought, I guess he was doing, he was working on the farm. Also. Antwan was not only working there, but he was only working for room and board. And that room was in the cellar. So Antwan was not making any money and, 

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And he was living in a cellar, 

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Which then also makes me think that Phoebe might not have been a slave because Phoebe was living like upstairs. So anyways, I just put this, wasn't going to get him anywhere quickly. When it came to Marine on May 11th, 1833, Antwan went to the local Tavern to grab a drink. Some sources say a hard cider, but he's a murderer. So I'm not going with that narrative. And I put in parentheses as I am drinking a hard cider maybe, or maybe not on cold medicine. Who's to say Antwan told us really good Antwan told the barky that he was just passing time until everyone at the house had gone to sleep, not sketchy at all. 

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After Antwan thought enough time had passed. He went back to the farmhouse and found Samuel say Sayer upstairs, shaving. He waved at Samuel to come with him. And the two walked out to the stables with one blow to the back of the head. Samuel, Sarah was dead. Antwan went back into the house and Lord Sierra to the stables, just like he did Samuel. But when Sarah walked in, she shrieked in horror seeing her husband dead. I mean, I mean, understandable. Antwan struck Sarah in the head with a spade and she fell to the ground, but she didn't die immediately. Like CML did. Sorry. This is a bit of a trigger warning. Skip forward a few seconds. If you would like he hits Sarah again on the head as she pled for her life. 

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And again, sorry, Antwan then proceeded to kick her to death in the head with his boot. Oh yeah. Antwan hid the bodies in a pile of manure and then went back into the house. There was one more person that he needed to take care of. And that was Phoebe. He snuck into her room and murdered her in her sleep. There are different stories as to how he murder her. One says that he clubbed her another is that he split her school with an ax or so sorry again, guys, he rammed a Pitchfork into her chest. 

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Once he was done, he tore through the house and took anything of value. He took everything that he could get his hands on, thimbles, coins, toothbrushes, and silverware. And he shoved them into pillowcases. Antwan took one of Samuel's suits and changed out of his bloody clothes. Then he stole a horse and flood. He thought that he could pawn the stolen goods and obtain a decent amount of money for the goods. And then he would board a ship to Germany all before anyone knew that the stares and Phoebe were dead, but much like other stupid criminals we've covered. He forgot to secure the pillowcase before he rode off into the night. And all of the items fell out while he was riding down the road, doing that. 

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The next morning someone was walking along the road when they found a piece of the Sayers monogrammed, silverware, oh dear. And the sheriff was sent to check on the stairs. Sheriff George Ludlow found the stairs and Phoebe, as he gathered a group of men to follow the trail of stolen items down the road to the mosquito Tavern, mosquito Tavern got a love it. Antwan was sitting inside the Tavern and was arrested immediately. And I was just put, don't think he's making it back to Marie. Don't think so. While Antwan was awaiting trial, he made a full confession in jail. His trial was held in Morris county courthouse and due to him confessing his child's not last very long. 

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The jury took 20 minutes to come to a decision in Antwan. LeBlanc was found guilty of murder. Judge Gabriel Ford sentence and Antwan to death. And his body was to be sent to Dr. Isaac Canfield for a dissection. He said to Antwan quote, that you will be hung by the neck till you were dead. And it is further considered by the court that after execution is done, your body will be delivered to doctrine CA to Dr. Canfield, a surgeon for dissection. And may God have mercy upon your soul? 12,000 people came to see Antwan hanged for the murders on September 6th, 1833. I don't understand the draw interestingly, but not surprisingly. 

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A majority of the crowd were women. People were everywhere on the green in trees, on rooftop, standing on top of other people. And that is quite literally an article in the New Jersey. Men said, quote, no such crowd as witness. It was probably ever in the town before or since people came by the thousands, not only from within the bounds of Morris, but from Aesics union, Somerset, Warren Sussex, and all other continued contiguous territory, horses and wagons at times blocked the roads and were tied from the park on the roads, leading from it for a mile or more out in every direction. 

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Goodness, many people brought their lunches, but all supplies. Okay. Let me just bring my lunch with me to watch this Gabby hanged. But all supplies gave out early and scores went hungry because people were like selling lunches on the green. Anyways, the town was using a modern Gallo, which was designed to pick up the prisoners instead of dropping them down. So when the weight was dropped, the news would pick up the prisoner eight feet into the air. So it was like a dumbwaiter. 

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Gotcha. Pretty much was what they created. Only two minutes after the way it was dropped and Swan little Blanca was dead. This is where he is not allowed to speak. We all know Leah's feelings about this next part. So in an attempt to not let her blow my audio levels, let's get through this quickly. Dissection was normal at this time for executed men in order for surgeons to better understand anatomy, that doesn't bother me. Oh, just wait. Okay. But, but I'm aware, I'm aware. Oh, just wait. Cause it helps scientific. 

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Oh, just, oh no. Again, like I said, hopefully it doesn't blow my audio levels. Okay. However, this was different. Oh dear Princeton, professor Joseph Henry used an electric battery to test a theory which linked electrical current to muscle contraction. Henry was able to cause Antwan's limbs to tents to make his eyes roll in their sockets and to bring a slight grin to his lips. It gets worse once done Antwan's ears were cut off and given way as souvenirs and a plaster death mask was made of his face. I'm sorry. 

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If anybody is squeamish, skip forward just a bit. Then the skin was peeled off and sent to the tannery where it was tanned and made into wallets, purses, lampshades, and book jackets. Each one was dated and signed by sheriff Ludlow. One of these wallets currently belongs to the New Jersey historical society rumors concerning the whereabouts of LeBlanc's remains. Continue to circulate around the area long after the 1833 dissection one local legend was that Dr. Canfield had reassembled the executed man's skeleton to hang in his office. This was disproved in 1893. 

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When workers building an addition onto the county clerk's office found Antwan's missing bones in a small wooden box in the walls of the old building. Then on Halloween night in 1995, a startling discovery was made, which confirmed many of the longstanding rumors concerning the survival of Antwan's epidermal artifacts while liquidating the estate of the late Charles Scherzer workers from Dawson's auctioneer's and appraisers of Morris Plains uncovered the glaze plaster death mask of Antwan stashed away in a box ensures there's basement soon don't bother me correct. Soon after this grim discovery, a shriveled change purse made from what appeared to be human skin was tucked away in an upstairs library of the same house. 

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Antwan Lovelock's execution was the last public hanging in Morris town, Samuel and Sarah Sayer and Phoebe are buried in the Presbyterian church cemetery in Morristown. Okay. Now that's just sick saddened, wrong death mask is fun. Figuring out how nerves were. What's funny is that from everything that I read, no one knows why they took like this. So personally like why they did all these things anyways. So onset another part and this weird book it's sonnet with, I mean, so weird as a servant, Phoebe was not considered sufficiently important for Antwan to be charged and punished for her murder. 

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Was she human? Was she, was she a person? And according to legend, she has continued to haunt the John Sayer house ever since. So even though Samuel and Sarah were the ones that lived there, John Sayer was Samuel's father and he is the one who built the Sayer house. So it's called the John saying makes sense. In 1946, the old Sayer house was converted into a restaurant. It suffered a devastating fire in 1957, after the fire reconstruction included additions and an expansion to the building while maintaining the tree that kept growing through the atrium dining area, which was just found really cool. 

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Hence the name in the 1970s, the Wedgewood in there is a story about one room Phoebe's room of deer, which was the upstairs banquet room. This is where Phoebe was murdered. The room always remained cold. Even after temperature adjustments were made, there was always a chill as well as an eerie presence and waitresses working in that room would sometimes see Phoebe's reflection in the mirror. Waitress has also reported the feeling of chilling hands being placed on their shoulders. When the restaurant changed hands and names to society hill in 1991, owner David digraph experienced a paranormal events. 

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The night at the grand opening of society hill, a Punchbowl was being filled for the party. Suddenly it cracked and split apart, letting the punch pour all over the place. There was no explanation as to how a Punchbowl could. Self-destruct in such a way. Over the years, the old Sayer house has had many different owners being named south street. Argalls restaurant Phoebe's restaurant. And most recently Jimmy's haunt. There have been many stories of doors, opening, chandelier, swinging unexplained voices, and sounds psychics have been brought in to conduct paranormal studies of what they believe are tormented spirits of the Sayers, Phoebe and Antwan. 

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Unfortunately Jimmy's haunt was torn down in 2008 and in its place sits a commerce bank. But, but last fun fact that I told you I'd leave you on. Okay, I'm ready. Remember I said that Alexander Hamilton and Elizabeth Schuyler met and Morristown, well, they were engaged in the John Sayer home, same home that Antwan LeBlanc murdered the Sayers in NA. And that house is now torn down. That's the thanks history. That's why I said it's like a fun, it's a fun fact. But then you're like, oh, what'd you do here at the home? 

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I did like, they called it Phoebe's restaurant. At one point I did 

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Like Phoebe's restaurant. I did like that. 

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And can I tell you like this whole time you've said Phoebe, I've thought about Phoebe for friends, Phoebe Boothbay. That that's who I thought of this whole time. Right? Because I mean, I'm wearing a shirt that with Joey on it, that says how you doing like that 

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Stuff and the guy's last name was <em></em> too. So that's 

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00:44:55

Yeah. That's true. So 

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Is it Matthew Small? That's married to Keith Morrison. No idea. I can't remember one of the people in friends, one of the guys, their mom is married to Keith Morrison from Dateline that's news to me. So anyways, that is the story of the murder of the Sayers and Phoebe and Antwan LeBlanc. And I just liked the story about the house. Cause I thought that it was fun even though they tore it down, which I find rude, honestly. Yeah. 

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You know, how's, this can't last forever. And there may have been foundational issues. You know, they've not been structurally sound anymore. It was an old, old house and it may not have been. 

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They no, they just, cause it was a restaurant up until 2008, like it was still functioning. Like people were still there. It was 

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An issue snippet 

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There. They didn't have shit. They didn't have to turn it into a bank, 

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But there may have been issues that weren't 

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Fixable. And I don't look, I hope Phoebe's haunting the bank. I'm 

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Just saying that it's possible. 

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Undying love 

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That too. We thank you guys for listening to this week's episode of one nation under crime. Leah is probably currently nursing her Disney hangover hat and or as my boyfriend calls it, the Irish flu Yours, won't be an Irish flu. You'll just be tired. 

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Yeah. I mean, we've done a 

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Lot of walking. What's funny though, is you never realize how much walking it is until you're done. Yeah. I 

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Mean guys, we're going to be, 

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So we will see you here. Same time, different crime next week. Also I do know what the upcoming episode is and Leo will not be here for part of it. So 

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Now I'm 

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Banish since pretty well since y'all recovering Duffy Lori. So Leo will not be here for part of that episode. And since you made it this far, in this episode, you get to know what the next episode is about. We'll be talking about <em></em> so hope you're either looking forward to it or not either way. You're going to get it. So remember there isn't always Liberty and justice for all. And I really hope BB still honing that bank anyways. We'll see you here next week. Bye guys.